Volkswagen reveals Jetta for 2015MY

[Rawcpoppa]

As the EA888 engines come online in Mexico I think VW will phase out the 118TSI in the Beetle and Jetta in favour of either the EA888 1.8T or EA211 four cylinders from the Golf 7 range.

As in even before the mk7 Jetta launches?

[ziggyboy]

Oh well, if that is the case, disappointing, my original thinking they will use the MQB on Jetta...

Don't understand why this matters. The MK6 Jetta was the first not to adopt the same platform as the Golf. My understanding was this was on purpose. I do not see why they would suddenly adopt the MQB. The current Jetta has a longer wheel base than the Golf, making it more roomy. IMHO making it too much like the Golf will reduce space and a step backwards.

[team_v]

Don't understand why this matters. The MK6 Jetta was the first not to adopt the same platform as the Golf. My understanding was this was on purpose. I do not see why they would suddenly adopt the MQB. The current Jetta has a longer wheel base than the Golf, making it more roomy. IMHO making it too much like the Golf will reduce space and a step backwards.

From my understanding, the MQB platform would allow cost savings due to standardisation of parts which we were promised would flow on to consumers.
It wold also provide a significant weight saving = better fuel economy or more performance depending on how you look at it.

[Rawcpoppa]

Moving to MQB doesn't mean it will automatically look like a golf. MQB just allows for standardization some aspects with weight savings as well. I look forward to the jetta moving to MQB. I don't look forward to the jetta being a golf with a boot.

[ziggyboy]

I believe part of the reason they didn't adopt Golf platforms was specifically for cost savings. The Jetta is primarily a cheaper car for the US market.

Again it has a longer wheelbase so going MQB will reduce interior space. The Jetta is now a medium sized car. It will be compact class again if they used the MQB.

[Rawcpoppa]

MQB doesn't govern whether it will be compact or not. Also the jetta uses the same pq35 platform as the golf 6 yet has a different wheelbase and sheet metal.

Vw can easily use the MQB platform for the Jetta yet make it different from the Golf so no, interior space won't automatically suffer.

The us jetta is cheaper because it left out ALOT of features. No independent rear suspension, no dq200 dsg, no parking sensors, leatherette instead of leather, cheaper polo electrical wiring, drum brakes, hard plastic dash. None of these things have anything to do with the platform. They simply decontented the us jetta.

This is proven by looking at euro spec mk5 and 6 jettas. They are not decontented and share the same platform but have different sheet metal but are essentially the same in price.

[Rawcpoppa]

Here is a document describing MQB:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/88004385/MQB-platform-Feb2012.pdf

[ziggyboy]

I partially agree with what you said regarding US spec and Euro spec Jetta MK6's.

However the MK5 Jetta in Australia was noticeably more expensive than the MK6. There was about a $6k drop in price between the two, and now the MK6 was dropped a further $6k, so in total it's about $12k cheaper than the MK5 Jetta was.

The Euro spec MK6's are also cheaper inside vs the MK5. More hard plastics.

[phaeton]

As in even before the mk7 Jetta launches?

Yes I think as we have seen with the Polo, the new generation petrol/diesel engines will spread to the 2015 Jetta.

I believe part of the reason they didn't adopt Golf platforms was specifically for cost savings. The Jetta is primarily a cheaper car for the US market.

Again it has a longer wheelbase so going MQB will reduce interior space. The Jetta is now a medium sized car. It will be compact class again if they used the MQB.

MQB was only just released with the Mk7 Golf and was not ready in 2011 when the Jetta was launched. PQ35 would have been locked in 3 to 4 years prior [2007/08] for NCS Jetta, so to early to adopt MQB which would only been ink on paper internally.

MQB doesn't govern whether it will be compact or not. Also the jetta uses the same pq35 platform as the golf 6 yet has a different wheelbase and sheet metal.

Vw can easily use the MQB platform for the Jetta yet make it different from the Golf so no, interior space won't automatically suffer.

The us jetta is cheaper because it left out ALOT of features. No independent rear suspension, no dq200 dsg, no parking sensors, leatherette instead of leather, cheaper polo electrical wiring, drum brakes, hard plastic dash. None of these things have anything to do with the platform. They simply decontented the us jetta.

This is proven by looking at euro spec mk5 and 6 jettas. They are not decontented and share the same platform but have different sheet metal but are essentially the same in price.

For 2014MY NA spec Jetta now has rear disc brakes and Multilink Rear Suspension as standard. Which is big for the VW US crowd who thought this was a mistake to minus these features when the Jetta was launched in 2011. Even VWoA have said this may have been a step to far back.

MQB will benefit the whole VW brand everything from the Polo to the CrossBlue will use MQB. As well as standardization of components such as sat nav/sound systems, the new engine series of EA288 (diesels) and EA211 (petrol) will be able to be used across hundreds of models. As will future tech like hybrids, electric cars to hydrogen vehicles have been considered for MQB.

MQB plants will potentially be able to adapt to demand of the customer more efficiently to. For eg if the Golf was to stop production due to factory fault or strike etc in one MQB plant it could be adapted by another a lot easier with the MQB system. VW could potentially change from building a Polo one week to an SUV the next in the same factory. Of course component suppliers must be able to change just as quickly to.

[kk_mqb_mk7]

Is it because the small compact cars segment is just gaining traction in the US compared to EU where the segment is mature enough to command premium and superior products?
I'm definitely impressed with the efficient modular system (MQB, MLB and MSB) though. Others are at the moment playing catch-up.
Hopefully we'll see an MQB-Jetta soon.

[jonesisabella36]

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