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Right. Thanks for all the input guys.
Seems like the fate has been sealed not to get the Jetta.
Cerato is looking to be a good contender. But I think currently Im leaning towards more on i30 Elite. Otherwise, Honda Civic VTi-LN is a good alternative at the moment. Poor VW. It had everything I could have ever wanted in terms of technology. Brought down by the gearbox...
joe...Joe Shin
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Originally posted by Joesama View PostRight. Thanks for all the input guys.
Seems like the fate has been sealed not to get the Jetta.
Cerato is looking to be a good contender. But I think currently Im leaning towards more on i30 Elite. Otherwise, Honda Civic VTi-LN is a good alternative at the moment. Poor VW. It had everything I could have ever wanted in terms of technology. Brought down by the gearbox...
joe...
I don't believe that any of those other cars you mentioned are even in the same class.
Enjoy your 5yr / unlimited kilometre warranty.
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Originally posted by Joesama View PostRight. Thanks for all the input guys.
Seems like the fate has been sealed not to get the Jetta.
Cerato is looking to be a good contender. But I think currently Im leaning towards more on i30 Elite. Otherwise, Honda Civic VTi-LN is a good alternative at the moment. Poor VW. It had everything I could have ever wanted in terms of technology. Brought down by the gearbox...
joe...
so you love everything else but are making the decision on something with an alternative? sounds more like you just wanted an excuse not to get it lol
civics and i30s are a step down in class and car type imo but if youre jsut going to drive it to the train station then thats all youll need. heck, why not just get a great wall chery? itll do that task fine at half the price (y)Jetta MK6 118TSI - 6speed Emmanuel Garcia | Winny Blues Filter | Samboy Chippy | Wesley Pipes | 19" RubaVdubondubs
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Yeh.. I have tried that actually. Just that this is primary gonna be my wife's car. The restrictive fact is that she cant drive manual cars whereas I can. Yeh.. not looking likely on the chery or something that looks hideous. Let alone, safety packs.
This is the 2nd time I'm actually being wooed away from VW. Last time was around 2009 where we ended up with Nissan Maxima instead. So yeh. I dont think chery will do the work here. And no, I'm not looking for an excuse not to buy a VW. I was hoping for a different answer where me and my wife could have gone... That is one awesome car. Thats the car we want.
joe...Joe Shin
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Cars are emotional purchases, so go with what you want. If you end up with issues that you have already been warned about (whichever car you choose), then that is entirely your fault.
If it is primarily your wife's car, then why don't you ask her? My personal opinion is that VW's aren't cars you buy for that sort of thing. It's more of an enthusiast car rather than one of those "set and forget" types. Unless your wife is interested in the intricacies of the DSG or can be bothered "driving it like a manual" then this is a no brainer.
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Lastly, the Jetta isn't even really a Golf. This whole class of cars thing is rubbish. "YOU" should judge what class of car it is. If an i30 feels better than a Jetta, then you have your answer. You don't need people to tell you it is a class higher/lower to make yourself feel better in your purchase.
Also be mindful that the Jetta MK6 is not as well built as the Golf. It uses more plastics and cheap material than the equivalent Golf.
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^is that in reference to what i said? if so, youre way off the mark. i said "class" as in classification not as in classy or social standing. nothing to do with personal choice or feelings. class in the way that certain types of cars are grouped together because of things like their similarities, target market and price.
of course anyone can have their little game of make believe and pretend whatever they want, "oh my kia karnival FEELS like a sports car and no one can tell me otherwise!!" lol, or someone could come from a clapped out ka laser and think a chery is a bentley but thats not changing the fact the chery is an entry level "economy" if you go to hire one. its certainly not going to be listed as a luxury sedan.
so when it comes to a real life decision of comparing apples with apples for the purchase of a high price item like a car, you need to use your head more than your emotions (more so when practical things like "must have safety features" "must be auto" "something the missus can drive") and that becomes alot less confusing if you compare cars in a similar class.
a simple "jetta vs" search will show you what everyone else has been looking at and youll see they compare the cars from the same class. having just gone thru the months of research to buy mine, never once did i come across someone asking to compare the i30 or civic to the jetta, golf maybe, but not the jetta. why do you suppose that is? doubt plastics percentage has anything to do with it.
and yes, at the end of the day its the buyers decision, never really said otherwise. youd be a fool if you based your decision solely on what someone on the internet says anyway! lolJetta MK6 118TSI - 6speed Emmanuel Garcia | Winny Blues Filter | Samboy Chippy | Wesley Pipes | 19" RubaVdubondubs
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Yeh. I suppose you are right in a sense that plastic percentage has got anything to do with this whole process. I have no idea how that discussion even came about.
The reason for going Jetta vs i30 and Civic is because they are similar sized car, similar equipment yet the price is quite within close to each other. I must agree that Jetta is on the upper bracket of that price range. But it is within the range. Unfortunately, I understand people do compare Jetta more with Honda Accord Euro or Ford focus. But none of them really interests me. Any how.. really thanks for all the good discussions here. Its been really helpful.
joe....Joe Shin
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Hi guys..
So back again.
We have decided against VW and took a delivery of i30 in Elite last week Tuesday.
I am actually quite impressed with the car. Although the equipment list is some what little short of VW Jetta or the new MK7 Golf, it is a remarkable car either way. The only really main missing features seems to be the auto dimming rear view mirrors, Electric park brake (From MK7 Golf) and the front park sensors. Otherwise, 7" GPS multimedia touch screen is fabulous. Gearbox is pretty smooth as well.
joe....Joe Shin
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Looking to buy Jetta Soon
Congrats on your new purchase.
What engine do you get with the i30? Curious to see if it matches up with what we get here. 6 speed automatic? Dual zone air con?
The i30 here costs 90% of the jetta and looked great in pics but I really couldn't bring myself to buy a none boosted small displacement car anymore.
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Originally posted by Joesama View PostHi guys..
So back again.
We have decided against VW and took a delivery of i30 in Elite last week Tuesday.
I am actually quite impressed with the car. Although the equipment list is some what little short of VW Jetta or the new MK7 Golf, it is a remarkable car either way. The only really main missing features seems to be the auto dimming rear view mirrors, Electric park brake (From MK7 Golf) and the front park sensors. Otherwise, 7" GPS multimedia touch screen is fabulous. Gearbox is pretty smooth as well.
joe....
I don't know why you would find the i30 Elite to be short on equipment compared to the Jetta. You were looking at the 118TSI Comfortline. There are heaps of features on the i30 that aren't on the 118TSI. And the Golf Mk7's are definitely more expensive. Furthermore the extra features you mention are too trivial, and many people prefer handbrakes to the electric park brake.
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Ok going by your "class" explanation, let me quote what you said:
Originally posted by human traffic View Postcivics and i30s are a step down in class and car type imo but if youre jsut going to drive it to the train station then thats all youll need. heck, why not just get a great wall chery? itll do that task fine at half the price (y)
Civics and i30's have been compared to the Golf so they are in the same class. Are you saying the Golf is the class lower than the Jetta?
That's why I didn't understand your meaning of "class". I do believe the Jetta is in the same class of cars (though the sedan version). They're not compared with the i30's because they're hatches. I have seen Jettas compared with larger cars which I think is wrong. It is a compact car. I don't know why someone would compare a Camry to a Jetta and not a Passat.
Regardless of whatever "class" meant, my comment on the Jetta's quality still stands. Among their passenger vehicle range it is only second to the Up in worst build quality. Before the Up came along it had the worst build. Even the Polo is better built. Yes, plastics has something to do with it because they are cheaper to manufacture. Even the MK5 Jetta had more "soft" material in the car (though it was also noticeably more expensive). This is no secret.Last edited by ziggyboy; 11-08-2013, 12:29 AM.
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